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Re: Bug#476646: debian-edu: Please include software packages that are relevant for development



Am Freitag 18 April 2008 schrieb Andreas Tille:
> development

...

> Depends: fp-compiler, fp-ide, fp-units-base, fp-units-gfx, fp-utils,
> fp-units-gtk2, \ fp-docs, fpc-source, fp-units-fcl, fp-units-i386,
> fp-units-multimedia, \ fp-units-misc, fp-units-net, fp-units-rtl,
> fp-units-fv Depends: lazarus

Nice to have this free equivalent to Delphi. However it takes >100 MiB 
and is decreasingly used.
>
> Depends: gambas2
Very nice, beware of missing/unmet dependencies.
>
> Depends: quanta
> Note:  this dependency is just contained in desktop-other, but it
> might be worth mentioning here

a must-have!
>
> Ignore: sun-java6-bin, sun-java6-demo, sun-java6-fonts,
> sun-java6-jdk,  sun-java6-jre, sun-java6-plugin, sun-java6-source
> Note: While Java6 is in non-free it is definitely useful for software
> development in schools and should be on our radar in any case.

Right, educational development tools include BlueJ and Greenfoot. Alas 
non-GPL. Please keep asking. 
>
> Suggests: eclipse
> Note: Eclipse is a really powerful development environment and
> schould not be missing in this list, but it might be some overkill
> for students and thus it is only "Suggested".

Indeed. But maybe anybody knows of the openoffice-wrapper for 
java/eclipse? It is said to give a simple interface to address 
openoffice by Java commands (comparable to Ponto being based on Python)

As for the GUI builder, Netbeans was easier to handle when I tried last.
>
> Depends: bwbasic

huh?
>
> Depends: kturtle

yes, but part of kde-edu I think
>
> Depends: kommander
>
> Suggests: tk8.5-dev, tcl8.5-dev
>
> Suggests: swi-prolog, swi-prolog-clib, swi-prolog-http,
> swi-prolog-semweb, \ swi-prolog-sgml, swi-prolog-table,
> swi-prolog-xpce, swi-prolog-doc

Very nice, but this was replaced by another version AFAIR. 
There is a non-profit JPrologEditor that gives a nice GUI to prolog. But 
it shouldn't be too hard to do the same thing with KWrite or the like.
(Emacs? - well...)

How about:
python,squeak, umbrello (musthave), kdevelop (Qt/c++)

There is also some neat educational Java apps that are GPLed:
JFractionlab, Geogebra, Geonext etc.

Kind regards
Ralf


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