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Minutes for the IRC Meeting 19.01.2006



DebianEdu IRC Meeting on 19.01.2006
This is a summary about the first DebianEdu IRC meeting. 
A small preversion of the Agenda can be found at:
 http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEduMeeting20060119
The following people gave input to the meeting:
 pere: Petter Reinholdtsen
 finnarne: Finn-Arne Johannsen
 Werner_: Morten Werner Olsen
 jemtland: Frode Jemtland
 k4x: Kurt Gramlich
 ThierryForb: Thierry Forb
 [-oskar-]: Xavier Oskar
 laprag: Ragnar Wissloff
 white: Steffen Joeris
The meeting was limited to 60 minutes.
At first we started to make a short summary about the current state of 
debian-edu .
 Steffen Joeris (white) summarized that there are 16 release critical bugs 
left.
 Petter Reinholdtsen aked about the test state of the current daily-build as 
it is important to always test the daily-build instead of testing 
pre-versions which are out of date for the development.
 Werner Olsen (Werner_) announced that the main-server- (tjener) and the 
thin-client-server-profile (LTSP) are working out of the box.
 There were no comments about the workstation and the standalone profile.
Steffen Joeris (white) proposed to skip all big changes on the profiles (e.g. 
the new experimental barebone profile) now and work on them after the 
release. There was a consensus about that.
LTSP-ThinClients
 Finn-Arne Johannsen (finnarne) remarked that there are some critical 
svn-commits which will brake the ltsp build for the thin-clients. The commit 
included an experimental script which is neither tested nor running now. The 
new script includes the diskless workstation solution.
 There are two options: Revert the change and use an old and running script or 
fix it.
 Frode Jemtland (jemtland) will look at the script, test it and try to fix 
errors within the next days and if necessary ask Finn-Arne (finnarne) for 
help.
 If this fix will take too long the commit will be reverted and we will stay 
with the old version.
NTP:
 Finn-Arne Johannsen reported that the ntp-setup is broken. Every Host tries 
to call pool.ntp.org which can cause some problems. He also set’s the 
priority to serious, because many schools only have isdn access, not every 
installation has ntp-server available and sometimes the requests are blogged 
by firewalls.
 A problem for the bugfix is that the new ntp-maintainer ripped out presseding 
support which makes it more difficult for us.
 For a fix we will provide ntp-server for all networked profiles (means all 
except the standalone profile).
 We still need one to fix and test the configuration for ntp (Bug 1024)
Device-Accesibility:
 The next problem is the missing accessibility to some devices. The users 
doesn’t have access to the audio device (/dev/dsp).
 Steffen Joeris (white) proposed to leave the decision to every administrator 
or to write a small script which makes it easier for admins.
 Finn-Arne Johannsen (finnarne) recommended to make these devices available 
for all means with the permission 666 .
 The developers found a consensus with Finn-Arne’s (finnarne) solution.
 We still need one to implement it now by using cfengine (Bug 974).
LTSP-Login:
 Next part was LTSP. The problem is that ldm takes too long for a login. The 
used hardware was a Pentium III.
 Ragnar Wissloff (laprag) wants to ask Oliver Grawert for help, because he is 
the one working on the new Ubuntu version.
 Petter Reinholdtsen (pere) points out that the case of the problem might be 
the encryption of the connection, but the developers agreed to encrypt the 
connection instead of a plain text connection, which will cause in security 
problems.
 Ragnar Wissloff (laprag) promised to ask Oliver Grawert soon and maybe 
provide a possible solution for the bug (bug 1010).
 For more information about LTSP Petter Reinholdtsen (pere) recomenden all to 
look at
 LTSP: https://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-ltsp/
KDEPIM:
 Steffen Joeris (white) and Finn-Arne Johannsen (finnarne) explain that the 
Kmail IMAP support the kdepim-kioplugins package is needed.
 In sid kmail depends against it but in sarge this dependency is missing.
 So the solution is to install the kdepim-kioplugins package automatically 
during the installation. For that Werner Olsen (Werner_) add this package as 
a dependency at the desktop-kde package from the debian-edu package.
 Werner Olsen (Werner_) and Petter Reinholdtsen (pere) will test and build the 
new debian-edu package during the next days and fix this bug (bug: 995).
WLUS:
 The administration tool WLUS is ready for the new release.
 Finn-Arne Johannsen (finnarne) tested it and verified that it is ready for 
the release.
Erkelenz:
 Kurt Gramlich (k4x) will keep on preparing the gathering. Thierry Forb 
(ThierryForb) and Xavier Oskar ([-oskar-]) will present the french cd and 
various new packages during the Erkelenz gathering. Thierry Forb 
(ThierryForb) will also get in contact with Petter Reinholdtsen (pere) and 
Steffen Joeris (white) for reviewing and sponsoring these packages.
Future BugSquashing:
Finn-Arne Johannsen (finnarne) will work on the rdiff-backup and various bugs.
 Frode Jemtland (jemtland) and Steffen Joeris (white) will verify the other 
bugs and check there priority and clean up the list of release critical bugs.
 Petter Reinholdtsen (pere) and Werner Olsen (Werner_) will work on the 
debian-edu package and on various bugs.
 Ragnar Wisloff (laprag) will take care of the LTSP bug.
IRC:
 We agreed in having IRC meetings every two weeks.
 The next IRC meeting will take place on monday 06.02.2006 at 1900GMT, please 
participate!
Personal comments:
 I really enjoyed to have such a meeting and thank all for their contribution.
 I also think that regular meetings help in the development of Debian-Edu, 
because of a better coordination.
 Now I recommend all to fix the bugs and to make a ready and working state so 
that we can release Debian-Edu/Skolelinux 2.0 (Codename “Unknown”).
Moderator: Petter Reinholdtsen (pere)
 Logs: Finn-Arne Johannsen (finnarne)
 Protocol: Steffen Joeris (white)

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