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Re: [Debian-NYC] Debconf 10 - NYC bid [video]

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Lee Azzarello <lee@rockingtiger.com> wrote:
> On Aug 31, 2008, at 5:55 PM, Michael Schultheiss wrote:
>> Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote:
>>> I think they recently raised it to 42 days. Also, they can demand
>>> your
>>> encryption keys in many circumstances even once you're inside the
>>> country with criminal penalties for failing to provide them, and with
>>> you having the burden of proof to show you don't know or have the
>>> information. Although there hasn't been a final US Supreme Court
>>> ruling
>>> on this issue, the courts that have ruled on it seem to believe
>>> that you
>>> can't be compelled to give up or type in a memorized encryption
>>> passphrase, since it would be a violation of your Fifth Amendment
>>> right
>>> against self-incrimination. See the US v. Boucher court case for more
>>> details, as mentioned in one of yesterday's /. stories. (They
>>> probably
>>> could compel it if they give some sort of immunity from criminal
>>> prosecution, but that's still a lot better than the UK situation.)
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/29/customs_raids_german_show/
>> Many countries have laws that can adversely affect a conference like
>> Debian.  I'm not sure why the US bids are being nearly universally
>> shunned while the non-US bids have their downsides essentially
>> ignored.
> Because it's trendy to hate America. I sure do!

It is hard to separate feelings for the US from the feelings towards
our rather incompetent/insane leadership. IE: Many people view the US
as an imperialistic empire, that preemptively uses military force with
little justification.


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