At 2023-05-17T11:30:36+0200, Helmut Grohne wrote: > This bootstrap aspect got me and I discussed this with a number of > people and did some research. I'd like to nominate you for a Russ Allbery Award for the most useful post to the thread. Your attention to concrete, empirical details, arising necessarily from practical experimentation rather than pure cogitation, made the nature of the problems here clearly comprehensible to me. And if I was befogged, I'll wager other people were too. Regards, Branden
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