On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 22:06:51 +0200 (CEST) Santiago Vila <sanvila@unex.es> wrote: > Package: debian-policy > Version: 3.9.8 > Severity: wishlist > > Greetings. > Hi, CCing debian-dpkg@l.d.o because I think Guillem would be interested in this. > Debian Policy 4.9 says: > > Both binary-* targets should depend on the build target, or on the > appropriate build-arch or build-indep target, if provided, so that the > package is built if it has not been already. > > > I don't see the point at all: > > > * Autobuilders *always* invoke the build-* targets first. > > * dpkg-buildpackage *always* invoke the build/build-* target first. > > [...] > > * Building as root should be discouraged. > It is my understanding that Guillem is working on making the requirement for using (fake)root obsolete. This would have different benefits that relevant to this discussion: * We can reduce the number of calls to make and by extension all the $(shell ...) invocation in d/rules (see #793404 for a discussion of that) * In theory, /if/ we could do a 100% transition, we could ditch the build target as a mandatory target. (Though this is hardly in the "near future" by any measure). > > [...] > > I don't know if this proposal will seem controversial, because we have > been doing that for ages, so please let us consider all the pros and > all the cons. > > [...] > > Thanks. > > I have no strong feeling for whether build should remain a mandated target (re: my second bullet above). But I have a conflict of interest with mandating that build must always be done in a separate invocation as it would complicate a major progress on #793404. My understanding is that removing the dependency would do exactly the latter (as "debian/rules build binary" is no longer well defined). Thanks, ~Niels
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