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Bug#704211: [release-notes] [wheezy] issues: NM conflicts with wicd-daemon, Gnome3 now depends on NM

(sorry for the dupe, forgot to include this to the BTS)

On Saturday, April 06, 2013 01:47:15, Joost van Baal-Ilić wrote:
> Hi Chris,
> Thanks for these nice patches.  Some comments though:
> In the TC-bug
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=688772#532
> has some text on why using n-m with gnome is a good idea.

Yes, as I mentioned I didn't get your (previous) BTS message as email, and 
only saw it after-the-fact as I was about to send the patches.  [I did get 
/this/ one as email, thankfully.]  I sent these patches anyway because I also 
want others to have a baseline to allow further suggested changes.  ;)

> You didn't quote that.  I feel it's important: people who
> previously choose not to run n-m might want to reconsider
> that, since n-m got much improved.  It's helpful to list
> those improvements.

Okay.  I can use some of the hints from your prior email to the BTS; I don't 
use NM much myself, so I don't have first-hand knowledge of improvements it 
has recently gotten.

> And in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=688772#665
> Technical Commitee stated:
>  6. We request that a release note is created explaining that gnome
>     users who do not currently have NM installed consider installing
>     it.
> I didn't see that reflected.  Care to get that in, too?

Yes, I plan to do that this morning.

Would you like this in the section, or the 5.4.2 section?  (Or both?)  
AFAICT it makes sense to put into the 5.4.2 section, e.g. something like:

   "It is suggested that installing NM be considered because it has
    features that other networking managers lack (such as IPv6 support), but
    if use of another network manager is desired, the NetworkManager daemon
    may remain installed but be permanently disabled [...]"

> Thanks for your work!

:)  Thanks for yours.

> (More remarks below.)

> > [Joost: not sure why, but I only saw your message in BTS just now and did
> > not receive it in email.]
> Hrm, strange.  I'll check for a bounce on my side.

Yeah I looked for a rejection in my mail logs and didn't see one, so not sure 
what happened.

  -- Chris

Chris Knadle

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