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Re: Bug#697029: [ilk] using GNOME 3 makes computer sluggish after a few minutes

On Sat, 2013-02-23 at 12:05 -0800, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> found 697029 linux/3.7.3-1~experimental.1
> tags 697029 - wontfix
> affects 697029 + release-notes
> quit
> Hi,
> Chris Wilson wrote:
> > The performance issue on 3.7 is not due to the missed irq, but a
> > combination of using UXA and VT-d. In order to workaround an erratum
> > on Ironlake, every time we touch the GPU's page tables, we have to
> > idle the GPU before doing so. This causes extremely noticeable display
> > lag.

For reference, the workaround seems to be implemented by:

commit 6fbcfb3e467adb414e235eeefaeaf51ad12f2461
Author: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Date:   Sun Sep 25 19:11:14 2011 -0700

    intel-iommu: Workaround IOTLB hang on Ironlake GPU

commit 5c0422878fcdc279ae9a8e8b66972a15b5efb67f
Author: Ben Widawsky <ben@bwidawsk.net>
Date:   Mon Oct 17 15:51:55 2011 -0700

    drm/i915: ILK + VT-d workaround

However the latter is applied only to Ironlake M (mobile).  So either
there are two different bugs or there is some confusion about which
chips have the bug.

> Pierre AUSSAGUEL wrote:
> > Appending intel_iommu=off seems to fix the problem (I tested a few
> > days befor posting).
> Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > Since we can't fix the hw, closing this as wontfix. Thanks for
> > reporting this issue anyway.
> That makes this a distro issue, I suppose.
> Ben and X team, any ideas?  Would it makes sense to disable
> intel_iommu by default on this hardware and require intel_iommu=on to
> reenable it?

Use of an IOMMU is in part a performance vs security trade-off.  I tend
to think that security settings should have consistent defaults, as
otherwise users may assume that a security feature is enabled when it is

Aside from that, the Intel IOMMU can be enabled separately per device
(except behind PCI bridges).  Since IGPs aren't real PCI(e) devices and
Intel has not always validated their interaction with the IOMMU, they
often don't work with it.  There is already a kernel parameter to
disable it for the IGP ('intel_iommu=igfx_off') and a quirk to do so
automatically for the G4x and GM45.  Maybe the thing to do is to log a
message about this parameter when enabling the workaround for Ironlake.

> Should GNOME somehow detect that it should use classic
> mode by default when the iommu is enabled?

I think this would be a very poor heuristic.

> If we can't come up with a workaround, this should be mentioned in the
> release notes to prevent a regression on upgrade.  Please feel free to
> remind me in that case so I can come up with some wording (though I
> also wouldn't mind if someone else does).

"Graphics rendering may be very slow on Intel 'Ironlake M' GPUs (PCI ID
8086:0046) when an IOMMU (VT-d) is enabled.  The IOMMU functionality can
be disabled for the GPU by adding the kernel parameter

(The identification of which devices are affected may need to be


Ben Hutchings
Absolutum obsoletum. (If it works, it's out of date.) - Stafford Beer

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