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Bug#533265: marked as done (release-notes: Initial aptitude upgrade unclear)

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Package: release-notes
Version: lenny
Severity: normal

Hello,

4.5.4. Upgrade apt and/or aptitude first

It is not clear from the text of this section that
if you have aptitude installed you should do the:
  # aptitude install aptitude
and not the:
  # apt-get install apt

I've done a few upgrades and done the apt-get install apt
rather than the aptitude install aptitude and the result
is that aptitude is uninstalled.  After installing 
aptitude then the apt-utils package remains uninstalled
and you get warnings from aptitude until after you
install it.

At least this is my experience.

I could be wrong about what I should be doing but
I just did another system and this time did (only)
the "aptitude install aptitude" and the upgrade
worked just fine from that point.  So, I believe the
text should be much more clear about which command
should be run.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 4.0
  APT prefers oldstable
  APT policy: (500, 'oldstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-6-686
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)

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--- Begin Message --- 
Hello,

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:44:50PM -0500, Karl O. Pinc wrote:
> 
> 4.5.4. Upgrade apt and/or aptitude first
> 
> It is not clear from the text of this section that
> if you have aptitude installed you should do the:
>   # aptitude install aptitude
> and not the:
>   # apt-get install apt
> 
> I've done a few upgrades and done the apt-get install apt
> rather than the aptitude install aptitude and the result
> is that aptitude is uninstalled.  After installing 
> aptitude then the apt-utils package remains uninstalled
> and you get warnings from aptitude until after you
> install it.
> 
> At least this is my experience.
> 
> I could be wrong about what I should be doing but
> I just did another system and this time did (only)
> the "aptitude install aptitude" and the upgrade
> worked just fine from that point.  So, I believe the
> text should be much more clear about which command
> should be run.

I think the current text is clear.
(maybe it was updated in the mean time).

If you disagree, can you make a proposal?

The current text is:

======================================================================
... so it is necessary to upgrade these two packages before upgrading
anything else. For apt, run:

# apt-get install apt

and for aptitude (if you have it installed) run:

# aptitude install aptitude
======================================================================

I parse it as:
Update both, unless aptitude is not installed, in that case update apt
only.

Best Regards,
-- 
Nekral

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