Hi, Sigh... I understand it is nice if we had copyright section .... but after all this was "note". On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 01:47:50AM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 11:02:00PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: > > Thank you for agreeing to the licensing[1], could you please tell me the > > relevant years, name and (optional) e-mail address, for the copyright > > notice? > > Hmm... as for names and e-mail addreses I think we need to dig that > information first. Years would be 1999-2007, they seem to have been first > written for slink (http://www.es.debian.org/releases/slink/#release-notes). > The DDP CVS only has the Release Notes since woody (january 2003), > previously they Release Notes resided in the boot-floppies' CVS. First of all, I think whoever contributed to the "DEBIAN" release-note was the one who implicitly agreed basic debian purpose and releasing R-N is part of the objective we all agreed. I know it is week argument but, at the same time, what is the likely risk of someone suing Debian for the releasing R-N as clarified GPL2 doc. > > What do the other co-authors and contributors have to say about this > > licensing? Do you agree or disagree? > > Notice that many of the people listed as co-authors (such as Josip or Adam) > are no longer subscribed to -doc. Some of the past co-authors/contributors > might not even be Debian Developers (or contributors) anymore. > > > Obviously enough, I'm *not* going to dig into the CVS logs to collect a > > comprehensive list of individual contributors, unless I first receive > > agreements from an encouraging number of main credited authors and some > > other contributors... ;-) > > I'm pretty sure most of the current editors agree with the licensing. They > are, however, right now out of time to cater this issue (we are trying to > release etch, after all). > > Digging into the CVS logs should not be that hard, in addition to the ones I > listed (editors), I find (in a cursory glance): > > - Frédéric Bothamy > - Daniel Nylander > - Roberto C. Sánchez > - Clytie Siddall > - Frederik Schueler > - Frank Lichtenheld > - Adeodato Simón > - Nobuhiro IMAI > - Luk Cleas > - A. Mennucc > - Martin Michlmayr > - Osamu Asoki "Osamu Aoki", I think. I do not remember what I did. I understand spelling name correctly is tough :-) > - Steve Langasek > - Jordi Polo > > It is worth noting that: > > a) Their contributions might not be present in the current RN anymore > b) Some of the patches they provided might be just "typo fixes" and not > actual text. I don't believe those grant one "co-author" status for a > document. > > Additionally, references to bugs in the BTS should be reviewed, as some logs > refer to bugs which might have included a patch from the submitter. > > Obtaining a contributors list from 1999-2003 might be more difficult, > however, and it still might be relevant. For example, contents of the > following patch from Chris Tillman for woody's release notes seems to still > be present in etch's Release Notes: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-doc/2001/12/msg00023.html (sent and applied by > Rob Bradford) > > The boot-floppies CVS (which held that information) seems not to be available > anymore (or at least I cannot find it in gluck). Does anyone keep a backup of > that one? > > Regards > > Javier If Francesco feels strong about this issue, he should at least put his effort to send out licensing clarification notice to all involved with contactable address and give us how they respond to the licensing clarification to the GPL2 and move one. If anyone object, they should clarify what section they own copyright and, if they disagree, let them or Francesco report to us about their position. Then we remove that section. For the record, I sign up any DSFG compliant copyright notice. Francesco, thanks for pointing out shortcomings but please think first how to improve situation and put your effort rather than letting others do lots of work for non-critical issue. Sorry for strong word but if you did what Javi did, I would have been a bit more positive. I know you feel strong about this issue but improving situation is best done by coercion not finger pointing. Regards, Osamu
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