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Re: MBF: Removal of GTK2 from forky



On 09/01/26 at 12:22 +0000, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Fri Jan 9, 2026 at 10:14 AM GMT, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
> > (with my Release Team hat on)
> 
> I welcome the release team's perspective on the issue!
> 
> > If GTK+2 is dead upstream for so long, then it'd be a disservice to our
> > users to keep shipping it in new releases.
> 
> Can you expand on why? (If it ins't covered by your existing points below)
> 
> > If you find any of the remaining rdeps useful, there's time to port
> > those over to GTK+3 or GTK+4.
> 
> The list of affected packages that Matthias has provided is enormous:
> 149 programs. Just glancing at it I see several that I use (openjdk-8,
> hexchat, amsynth, pidgin), but I'm just one weirdo: to truly assess the
> impact I think we need to x-ref the list against popcon and similar such
> exercises.

hexchat is recommended by cinnamon-desktop-environment and
education-desktop-lxde, which might inflate its popcon score.

Fwiw, the gtk2 applications I have installed and rely on:
- verbiste-gtk (a french and italian conjugator). Apparently no port to
  more modern GTK in progress, but there's a CLI version I could live with;
- xournal (a PDF annotator). There's xournalpp (xournal++) that uses
  GTK3.

Lucas


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