Whether there can be racism against white people is an incredibly complex question with a ton of baggage, about which many PhD dissertations have been written and I'm sure many more will be.
This particular discussion we are engaged in here is hard enough without going down this particular rabbit-hole. It's off-topic for this list, and it's unlikely that anybody's mind will be changed on this particular issue by a discussion here. So can we please, just… not get into it any further here?
Thank you.
On 2025-07-17 11:45:44, Antoine Le Gonidec wrote:Le Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 07:30:46PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez a écrit :I have a very hard time understanding how in two adjacent paragraphs you can say both "Sexism, racism and such are not, never were, and can not be funny." and also "making fun of cis-het white males can be offensive, and it’s OK." You sound like a hypocrite. So, are sexism, racism and such *never* OK, or are they only OK when they're directed at whatever group or groups you happen to think it is acceptable to oppress? Society has been there before (some group decides that another group should be oppressed, marginalized, exploited, eradicated, or whatever) and the results were not good. It doesn't make sense for you to claim a commitment to non-oppression and then make allowance for it at the same time.I get where the confusion is coming from. I am indeed saying that sexism, racism, etc. are never OK. But that jokes targeted at the dominant group are not racism or sexism. There is no such thing, in our current society, as anti-white racism or anti-male sexism. Because these -ism are about enforcing an oppression, and there is, by definition, no oppression happening against the dominant group.This is the most wrong stance to have on racism and sexism. There can be racism against any person, and sexism against any person. If you say "there can't be racism against X", what you're actually doing is being racist against all X. If we don't want to promote racism, then let's acknowledge that racism itself is bad, not racism against Y. Otherwise you're just trying to switch from racism against Y to racism against X. very surprised, iustin