Re: Can the community team remove packages or kick me out for not removing packages?

[Hanno 'Rince' Wagner <wagner@rince.de>]

Hi Tiago!

On Thu, 17 Jul 2025, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote:

> > yes, it would. It would also not forcing anyone using this content. If
> > you want to have it then you have to install it by yourself.
> 
> Any software packaged in Debian is automatically promoted, meaning that
> Debian itself (as a project) is responsible for disseminating its
> contents.

So. we are also shipping the Bible and other religious books which are
used to prepare war (crusades or others). do we also ban them because
of their offensive nature?

> This has nothing to do with free speech, which is currently
> the dominant narrative used by big tech companies to avoid
> responsibility when their algorithms promote hatred written by others.

for me it has a lot to do with free speech and the possibility to have
a free opinion and being able to express my opinion. not the way the
big companies are using this argument, I agree here with you.

but still, I think it is better to have these packages and discuss
about them (and maybe put them in a different repository) then to hide
them as if they do not exist. they exist, and there are people who
spend time in creating them because they want to have them.

> This isn't about silencing them; it's simply about not providing them
> with our infrastructure to spread their hatred (jokes are one of the
> most common form of expressed hatred).

I disagree that jokes are expressed hatred. This may happen for crude
jokes, but there are so many jokes as play of words, about politics (I
try to make the distinction between comedy and satire).
But again: what may be offensive for you may not be offensive for
others. who can now decide what to do?

> > you do not have to install this content if you do not like it. if you
> > want to, you can - but it is your decision. if you remove the content,
> > you take this decision away.
> 
> Yes. You don't even need a Debian package for that.

but we still can provide the package. it exists. someone spent a lot
of time curating the package.

best regards, Hanno Wagner
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