Re: Bug#1093192: #1093192 "ITS: vtgrab": no uploaders specified?
- To: наб <nabijaczleweli@nabijaczleweli.xyz>, 1093192@bugs.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org
- Cc: Joost van Baal-Ilić <joostvb-debian@mdcc.cx>
- Subject: Re: Bug#1093192: #1093192 "ITS: vtgrab": no uploaders specified?
- From: Chris Hofstaedtler <zeha@debian.org>
- Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 17:53:37 +0100
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On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 05:44:34PM +0100, наб wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 05:29:26PM +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 05:18:39PM +0100, наб wrote:
> > > Quoting the relevant:
> > > > It is recommended to choose between one of the two following schemes:
> > > > 2. Put the mailing list address in the Maintainer field.
> > > > In the Uploaders field, put the team members who care for the package.
> > >
> > > In the packages salvaged into the salvage team we have a choice between:
> > [..]
> > > 3. Maintainer: salvage team
> > >
> > [..]
> > > 3 is a better fit for what I term dead-end packages
> > > (ones that truly no-one cares about, with no upstream,
> > > or no maintainer, or no utility, or otherwise 0 forward motion;
> > > and with little potential to generate bugs except 1 FTBFS/decade).
> > > This is most of the salvage team packages.
> >
> > Why are what you call "dead-end packages" "salvaged" at all? I seem
> > to recall that the salvaging process is for packages you actually
> > want to maintain.
> Because a more aggressive RM RoQA policy got me yelled at last time
> for making work for the ftpmasters, so I stopped arguing for RMs
> and do Andreas' preferred methodology of salvaging everything.
> Doing this allows packages that tend to be in a functionally-orphaned
> state to be team-maintained in the long term. This satisfies the salvage
> criteria as I see them and I have an equal interest in every weird
> ancient FTBFS these packages generate.
If you are still interested in them, then properly document this and
add yourself to Uploaders:
Not doing this seems like a clear abuse of the ITS process to me.
Otherwise if you just want to "create facts", do an O: upload and
set Maintainer: Debian QA Group.
Chris
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