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Re: proposal: Hybrid network stack for Trixie



Am 27.09.2024 08:31 schrieb Christian Kastner <ckk@debian.org>:

On 2024-09-23 13:09, Lukas Märdian wrote:
>> So on desktop installations including NetworkManager, netplan will be
>> configured to do nothing? Why install netplan at all on desktop systems
>> then?
>
> Because it allows to add configuration in a way that is common with
> server, cloud
> and other instances of Debian. It's not about enforcing this, or
> breaking people's
> use-cases. But about working towards unified network configuration.

That doesn't answer the question though. When it does nothing by default
on those systems, why install it?

On those systems, if people want to explicitly configure and make use of
netplan, why wouldn't they just `apt-get install netplan.io`?


I also don't buy the argument about finding information on the Internet about finding solutions. 

Most desktop and laptop users will likely never configure their networks via netplan unless that is what the default GUI network configuration dialogues use. Even if someone were to actively document how to solve certain network issues using netplan, it would lead to confusion. Let's say I used the default dialogues all the time and then applied a WiFi fix via netplan while I was at some conference. Now I come back home and suddenly my laptop can't connect to my home WiFi anymore because netplan overrode the interface config in NetworkManager.

I'm really opposed to using netplan as a "common interface" by default until it has better integration.

Cheers,
Sven


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