Re: Community survey on network stack for Trixie
On 04.09.24 21:41, Daniel Baumann wrote:
sorry, one more..
On 9/4/24 18:00, Lukas Märdian wrote:
But we ought to look at the bigger picture!
From that point of view, it doesn't make sense to even consider netplan.
No distribution other than ubuntu is using it.
If Debian uses network-manager and systemd-networkd, there's hardly any
difference in the configuration wrt/ to the other major distributions,
so, *that* has the potential to unify documentation.
Except that others recommend only ONE tool and stick to it, while Debian
would recommend two at the same time. (Three actually, as Netplan is used
in our cloud-images.)
That's exactly what leads to confusion.
* Fedora/RHEL recommends NetworkManager
* Ubuntu recommends Netplan
* For others like Arch Linux or Gentoo, people choose their stack explicitly,
so it doesn't really matter.
Debian would recommend NetworkManager for desktop/laptop, systemd-networkd
for server, Netplan for cloud. And people would need to do their research
to understand what stack they are on, to then better understand how to
control it.
or in other words: If you would truly care for that then let's use the
chance to *remove* some Debian-isms (ifupdown and friends) from the "big
picture", rather than further *adding* more divergence by fostering netplan.
I'm all for removing Debian-isms, but I guess that's a discussion for another
year...
Agreeing on Netplan would provide us with the hybrid stack that you described
above, but without the confusion. Furthermore, it's been proven in Ubuntu for
7+ years, so lots of edge-cases have already been hit and handled.
Cheers,
Lukas
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