Re: MBF: drop dependencies on system-log-daemon
Hi!
On Tue, 2024-05-28 at 10:57:13 +0900, Simon Richter wrote:
> On 5/27/24 22:18, Simon McVittie wrote:
> > So I think your syslogd-is-journald could not be a Provides on the
> > existing systemd-sysv package, and would have to be a separate package.
> > I'm not sure that the benefit is worth it (and I see that Luca is sure
> > that the benefit *isn't* worth it).
>
> I agree -- that's why I suggested changing the dependency to
>
> "systemd-sysv | system-log-daemon"
>
> This does not require an extra package, leaves out the system-log-daemon on
> most systems, still leaves the option of co-installing a flat logging daemon
> parallel to journald, and the packages work out-of-the-box on derived
> non-systemd distributions, so we don't waste developer time on maintaining a
> fork just for this issue.
I also care about portability and non-default alternatives, so I
assume for packages I maintain I'll be going instead with:
"<real-syslogd> | system-log-daemon | systemd-sysv"
I don't think the original proposal is technically sound to represent
what is really going on with logging, but given its tone and how it
is being rushed (not even a day for discussion), it seems to me like
spending time thinking or proposing alternatives would be a waste of
time and energy.
Regards,
Guillem
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