* Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> [2023-06-10 19:54]:
I would caution to avoid interpreting clarifying questions being asked as dissent. It's good to ask questions and clarify details about corner cases, but I wouldn't automatically write them down as disagreement. At least that's my reading of recent parts of this thread.
This is also my understanding. And for the record, I want to emphasize that I am very much in favor of the plan that Helmut came up with, for a number of reasons: [Full disclosure: I had a few in-person discussions with Helmut in Hamburg last month, so I am probably somewhat biased by now.] 1. Helmut has shown experimentally that his transition plan can work. There are always unknown unknowns, of course, but at the very least, we do not have to break any use-cases intentionally. 2. The transition will leave us in a well-defined state post-trixie without the need to add (and continue to maintain) any clutches (or "special cases") for dpkg. 3. Almost all problematic cases can be dealt with by some black magic in a single usrmerge-support package. It is not pretty, but it will get the job done; a bunch of trickery to make dpkg do the Right Thing despite its incomplete knowledge of aliased paths. 4. We will be able detect the few cases where the Right Thing does not happen transparently, and we can even give advance warning to affected package maintainers what they should and should not do. If the maintainers of those packages pre-upload their transitioned packages to experimental for some automated tests and verification, we can avoid any breakage in unstable and testing. Of course, you do not have to take my word for any of this. I am a big fan of Helmut's approach with experimental verification and data-driven discovery. Have a look at his published test scripts and try to poke holes in them. The more people do this, the more confidence we can have that this might actually work after all. Cheers Timo -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ╭────────────────────────────────────────────────────╮ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ │ Timo Röhling │ ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ │ 9B03 EBB9 8300 DF97 C2B1 23BF CC8C 6BDD 1403 F4CA │ ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀ ╰────────────────────────────────────────────────────╯
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