Il 23/05/2022 01:42, Glauber Baldez ha scritto:
Some considerations for project improvement:1. Debian should already offer users a minimal installation mode similar to Ubuntu, without media players, games and office applications.2. Debian should follow Doug Gwyn's words in stating that Unix was not designed to stop its users from doing stupid things, as that would also stop them from doing smart things; the operating system must trust the user. Writing this, a big problem is not knowing how to differentiate the desktop environment from desktop applications, treating these factors as if they were the same thing. For example, the user cannot be prevented from removing the default web browser (desktop application) to replace it with another one of their choice as this breaks the desktop environment. Where's the freedom? I repeat again: desktop environment and desktop applications are not the same thing, so they shouldn't be treated as such either.
Hi, thanks for your mail with suggestion to improve the project.I'm one maintainer of the cinnamon team, in the years I did some changes to make possible to have minimal installation of cinnamon. cinnamon (the package) without recommends is the very minimal. In some cases users had reported changes that had added unnecessary packages to the dependencies that I had then modified or removed and made some tests both on debian and ubuntu but unfortunately I can not do them often because they take a long time (both installation and quick functional tests) so report or advice from users are always useful.
cinnamon-core and cinnamon-desktop-environment are 2 metapackage, the first for minimal desktop environment and second full. In the full one there are browser, media player and mail client are depends (libreoffice instead is already in recommends), one users recently required to remove browser and media player from depends but I added some alternative instead (in 5.2.2) thinking that are "essential software" for a full DE metapackage without recommends.
I was wrong and I should move them to the recommends? Any reply/suggestion from other maintainers or users is appreciated. Sorry for my bad english.
I hope these proposals will be taken into account and discussed by the developer team.Good luck to the project and everyone.
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