Quoting Marc Haber (2021-08-17 18:56:59) > On Tue, 17 Aug 2021 15:52:27 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> > wrote: > >Quoting Simon Richter (2021-08-17 14:17:05) > >> Rather than accept defeat, I'd like Debian to push upstreams more > >> aggressively for higher quality releases, and also to make > >> judgement calls on whether a particular package is even suitable > >> for a stable release instead of assuming that by default. > >> > >> For a package to be included in Debian, it must be possible to > >> maintain it. > >[...] > >> Part of being a maintainer is to communicate our needs to upstream, > >> and work with them on solutions. > > > >Well said! > > > >All of it, not only above highlighed snippets. > > I do mostly agree with that, but we also need to take into account > that people usually don#t want explanation, they want what they want > to work without hassle, and that they'll readily ditch Debian in favor > or some other distribution that claims to be more easy to use. > > There is, for example, one distribution that is based on Ubuntu (maybe > they thought that ubuntu would be too hard to install) and does not > support upgrades. Their FAQ says "we cannot support upgrades because > we're based on Debian which doesnt support upgrades". Sorry, I fail to understand what was the point of last paragraph above. Would you mind spelling it out to me? I mean, I doubt that you simply wanted to say that some derivatives of Debian don't understand Debian and therefore waste time reinventing wheels... - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private
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