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Re: Accepting / adopting DEP-14



Quoting Raphael Hertzog (2020-08-26 15:34:20)
> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020, Geert Stappers wrote:
> > The good things of https://dep-team.pages.debian.net/deps/dep14/ are in use.
> > But https://dep-team.pages.debian.net/deps/dep14/ it self looks abandonned.
> 
> Why are you saying that?
> 
> > What is needed to official accept DEP-14?
> > (and to give https://dep-team.pages.debian.net/deps/dep14/ status "adopted")
> 
> We could just mark it as accepted but then there's the naming issue that
> was recently discussed.
> 
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2020/06/threads.html#00158
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2020/06/msg00158.html
> 
> That discussion had no clear outcome and it would be nice to
> tackle this before marking it as accepted.
> 
> My conclusion of that thread is that we would like to change to something
> else but it was not clear what upstream git was going to use as default
> name and that we should possibly better wait until we know more... that
> said, re-reading the archive, some sort of rough consensus could emerge
> for using debian/devel instead of debian/master.
> 
> Do we know more in between? How will git handle this transition?

I see no need to resolve the recent discussion about renaming default 
branch before accepting DEP-14:

DEP-14 includes a renaming of default branch, and even if it suggests 
using "debian/master" instead, it is explicitly not strict about that 
but suggests alternatively using "debian/unstable" or "debian/sid" 
instead.

So...

Those eager to avoid the term "master" can do that without DEP-14 and 
can do that with DEP-14 as well.

Those in favor of DEP-14 but seeing no need to avoid the term "master" 
can use the term "debian/master".

Those disliking change of default branch will not embrace DEP-14 
regardless of the recent discussion.

Did I miss some combination of opinion where it is relevant postpose 
either process because it complicates the other?

(I do recognize that it would be wonderful if either of those processes 
would magically make the other irrelevant, but I don't see that as a 
reasonable argument for coordinated effort, only for sihsful thinking)


 - Jonas

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