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Re: Disabling automatic upgrades on Sid by default?



Hi

On 27.12.2020 11:42, Devops PK Carlisle LLC wrote:
I would like to be able to selectively exclude-with-a-warning some
packages from automatic update as I choose, and to have the update
process remember those choices from one update instance to the next:

you could use aptitude-robot, which has lists of packages to not
upgrade automatically, but the rest it does.

Consult the manual page for details.

HTH,

Chrome browser: Version a.b.c will be installed
Firefox: Version d.e.f will be installed
Kernel g.h.i is available (automatic update disabled by user)
Libre Office j.k.l will be installed
...

If I know that, for instance, a kernel update will break a wifi dongle
driver or NVIDIA driver, either I must not use automatic updates at all
and I must remember which packages I don't want to update and manually
exclude those packages every time OR I must have enough time to repair
what will break (and may update less often as a result).

Now I understand the potential for dependency issues if selective
disabling of updates is possible, but that's okay, that's Linux. Provide
a warning about dependencies if that's detected and leave it up to the
user to decide.


On 12/27/20 1:01 AM, M. Zhou wrote:
Hi folks,

I don't quite understand the meaning of automatic upgrades on a rolling
system such as Debian/Sid. According to my own experience, such
automatic upgrades could be dangerous.

Recently package ppp is pending for upgrade but it does not co-exist
with my currently installed network-manager. Today when I was shutting
down my machine, Gnome automatically checked the "install updates ..."
box for me before I realized its existence. As a result, the system
reboots and installed ppp by force, removing network-manager and break
my system for daily use as I need network-manager for wifi-access.

I've been a daily Sid user for at least 4 years. Automatic upgrades are
to blame for nearly all my system troubles. And I feel very
disappointed every time linux behaves like M$ windows.

So, do we have a consensus on whether automatic upgrades should be
enabled by default?



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