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Re: What to do when DD considers policy to be optional? [kubernetes]

Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org> writes:

> If this represents the actual state of building Kubernetes, it's
> unclear to me why Debian would package it at all. I don't see the
> value to users in consuming Kubernetes from a Debian package if the
> result is compromising on Debian's vision and values so that they
> can get the exact same thing they'd have if they just used the
> Kubernetes community's recommended tooling to install it instead.

I have been very grateful over the past few months to have Kubernetes
available in Debian (and have been quite annoyed at the irritating things
I have to do get and update Helm, which at least has a snap, and Argo CD,
which doesn't have anything useful).

I have no opinion about the best solution to the huge vendoring problem.
(The Rust team is trying the package everything approach with some success
but is uncovering other limitations in our processes and tools.)  But
having these tools in Debian is hugely valuable for Debian users who need
them, which is sort of the point of Debian at the end of the day.

> I'm all for using the best tool for the job, and while I've been a
> die-hard Debian user for more than two decades I also don't install
> every last bit of software from its packages.

I do when I can because I otherwise have to remember to wire together N
different update mechanisms, which is remarkably not-fun and takes time
away from the actual work I'm trying to do.

Russ Allbery (rra@debian.org)              <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

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