On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 12:13:37PM +0100, Christoph Haas wrote: > Fellow devs, > > bear with me if the topic of the upcoming european copyright law (aka > §13) has been discussed in other mailing lists. As being responsible for > screenshots.debian.net I honestly am a bit worried about the > implications. As usual??? IANAL. > > Management summary: screenshots.debian.net is a web site that I > developed many many years ago and which is since then providing > user-generated screenshots for applications we manage in Debian. > Everyone can upload screenshots which are then moderated by pabs and me > before being published. We try to take care that screenshots of non-free > packages are not published to avoid copyright issues. And we claim to > publish screenshots under the same license as the software itself is > published. This has been the consensus after discussions on this list > ~10 years ago. Screenshots can be browsed and searched at > https://screenshots.debian.net/ and are also directly linked to from a > lot of web sites like packages.debian.net or packages.ubuntu.com. The > site currently provides 8500 screenshots, has a pretty good uptime and > according to the web server stats gets a good amount of requests. > > I am not only bringing this topic up because there will be a large > amount of rallies today (at least in Germany) and the topic is very hot. > The main reason is that I am working on an updated version of the web > site that will have a revised moderation workflow. pabs suggested that > we should allow all DDs to freely upload screenshots. That is already > implemented in the upcoming version and will be handled by our valued > sso.debian.net client certificates. That of course would mean that DDs > have to take care of copyright problems when uploading stuff. > > A further idea of me is to allow everyone to use SSO providers like > Launchpad, Stackexchange, Google, Amazon and Github. I was considering a > system where users would have to upload a certain number of "good > screenshots" before being allowed to upload freely. I hoped to attract > more people to upload screenshots without the hassle and delay of going > through moderation. pabs and I discussed whether it's worth doing that. > Will there really be so much more user content that it's worth allowing > that? > > Most of us are not lawyers so it may be hard to dig out the ultimate > truth. But I am personally worried because the server is run under my > name and I would not like to get into personal trouble while running a > platform that is providing user-generated content. Because that's what > all the EU law fuss is currently about. > > I would welcome your thoughts on that. Thanks. I'm in a simular situation. I do provide servers with wikis to local user groups. Every person smart enough to register an account upload whatever they please. Do I go implement "filters"? No. Do I go shutdown the various wikis? No. Do I think that "EU article 13" will harm the libre Internet? Yes Groeten Geert Stappers -- Leven en laten leven
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