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Re: [Alioth-staff-replacement] alioth deprecation - next steps



Hi,

On  Do 26 Apr 2018 10:52:41 CEST, Alexander Wirt wrote:

On Thu, 26 Apr 2018, Andrej Shadura wrote:

On 26 April 2018 at 10:21, Alexander Wirt <formorer@formorer.de> wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2018, Andrej Shadura wrote:
>
>> On 17 April 2018 at 13:00, Alexander Wirt <formorer@debian.org> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > as you should be aware, alioth.debian.org will be decommissioned with
>> > the EOL of wheezy, which is at the end of May. The replacement for
>> > the main part of alioth, git, is alive and out of beta, you know it
>> > as salsa.debian.org. If you did not move your git repository yet,
>> > hurry up, time is running out.
>> >
>> > The other important service from the alioth set, lists, moved to a
>> > new host and is now live at https://alioth-lists.debian.net [1].
>> > All public list archives moved over too and will continue to exist
>> > under the old URL.
>> >
>> > ## decommissioning timeline
>> >
>> > 01.05.18: DISABLE registration of new users on alioth. Until an improved SSO (GSOC Project, see [2]) is ready, new user registrations >> > needed for SSO services will be handled manually. More details on this will follow in a seperate announcement. >> > 10.-13.05.18: darcs, bzr and mercurial repositories will be exported as tarballs and made available readonly from a new archive host,
>> >               details on that will follow.
>> > 17.-20.05.18: During the Mini-DebConf Hamburg any existing cron jobs will be turned off, websites still on alioth will be disabled. >> > 31.05.18: All remaining repositories (cvs, svn and git) will be archived similar to the ones above.
>> >           The host moszumanska, the home of alioth, will go offline!
>>
>> Could the steps including taking VCS repos offline be offset by at
>> least two months? There are too many packages not yet migrated to
>> Salsa or to Git in general, and completing that by the end of May is
>> putting too much pressure on the maintainers.
> Nope, we announced that months, if not years ago.

That doesn’t seem like a reasonable reply. What was announced is one
thing, but the plans have to be adjusted to the reality, which is that
you cannot switch off the VCS hosting by the end of May.

It is. The plans were announced, I blocked the dates (I am even on vacation
for that) and the system is EOL with end of may. It will go down then.

Migrating Git repos from Alioth to Salsa is doable for most packaging teams in a day or two (the Javascript team migrated 1024 packages on one day)...

However, as one of the late bummers, I'd also love to have Vcs services available with read-only status for some more time. But, alas.

Greets,
Mike

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