On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 08:28:08AM +0800, Rolf Leggewie wrote:
} Dear fellow maintainers, dear Lucas and Athos,
>
> I'd like to use this opportunity to relay my experiences with Lucas
> Kanashiro (kanashiro@debian.org) and Athos Ribeiro
> (athoscribeiro@gmail.com). TL;DR Going purely by my "interaction" or
> rather the lack of it with them in the maintenance of gjots2, I have
> some doubts they are fit to be DD or DM.
I'm sure that doubts don't help here.
> Let me be clear, I am not calling for Lucas Kanashiro to be stripped of
> DD privileges, but I would certainly like to raise my objections if
> Athos ever attempted to become DM or DD. And I want to make sure that
> Lucas' behaviour is documented and known in case of a repeat.
>
> For many years, I have maintained gjots2 and a number of other packages
> in Debian, I am DM. Towards the end of March, totally out of the blue
> Lucas and Atheros usurped maintenance of gjots2 from me without NMU, MIA
> or any form of communication with me whatsoever. I am very active, both
> in Debian and Ubuntu, anything but MIA. I have a working e-mail
> account. About a week ago I asked them to reverse their changes which
> until today hasn't happened so I went ahead and did it myself now, doing
> their clean-up work.
>
> They might want to argue that gjots2 was poorly maintained and hasn't
> seen an upload to unstable for years. That still would not give them
> reason to do what they did. In fact, I have always taken my
> responsibilities seriously. There are good reasons there was no
> upload. If they had bothered to check the upstream bug tracker or the
> upstream branch at
> https://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/gjots2.git they would
> have surely realized I followed upstream closely. It was simply that I
> was never satisfied with any of the upstream releases. I have been in
> contact with upstream about this via bug tracker and e-mail (many of
> which bounced, so progress has been slow). Even the latest upstream
> release 3.0.2 does not work for me and thus I would not upload it to
> unstable. Agreed, gjots2 is not in good shape but it's not because of a
> lack of effort from the Debian Maintainer.
>
> Lucas and Atheros hijacked my package and then failed to clean up after
> the mess they made despite being asked to do so.
>
> Regards
>
> Rolf
>
Facts from https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gjots2
[2018-04-15] Accepted gjots2 2.4.1-4 (source all) into unstable (Rolf Leggewie)
[2018-03-24] Accepted gjots2 2.4.1-3 (source all) into unstable (Athos Ribeiro) (signed by: Lucas Kanashiro)
[2017-10-24] gjots2 REMOVED from testing (Debian testing watch)
[2014-03-04] gjots2 2.4.1-2 MIGRATED to testing (Debian testing watch)
[2014-02-22] Accepted gjots2 2.4.1-2 (source all) (Rolf Leggewie)
[2013-11-23] gjots2 2.4.1-1 MIGRATED to testing (Debian testing watch)
[2013-11-12] Accepted gjots2 2.4.1-1 (source all) (Rolf Leggewie)
[2013-10-27] gjots2 2.3.15-4 MIGRATED to testing (Debian testing watch)
[2013-10-16] Accepted gjots2 2.3.15-4 (source all) (Rolf Leggewie)
Facts from https://tracker.debian.org/news/942483/accepted-gjots2-241-3-source-all-into-unstable/
gjots2 (2.4.1-3) unstable; urgency=medium
.
* Remove python-gtksourceview2 and mpage from Recommends. Closes: #876571
* Declare compliance with Debian policy 4.1.3.
* Bump debhelper compatibility level to 11.
* Add myself as co-maintainer.
* Update VCS URLs to point to salsa.
Facts from https://tracker.debian.org/news/949699/accepted-gjots2-241-4-source-all-into-unstable/
gjots2 (2.4.1-4) unstable; urgency=medium
.
* revert the package hijack in 2.4.1-3 by
Athos Ribeiro <athoscribeiro@gmail.com>
Lucas Kanashiro <kanashiro@debian.org>
who couldn't even be bothered to clean up after their mess
* move VCS URIs to point to github
* update my copyright to 2018
So we have all the ingredients for a fight:
* several people
* something that is important to all of them
* different views on it
And that dispute is now on d-devel@l.d.o. ...
What I would like to see:
* the involved people express that gjots2 is important to them
* the involved people talk (email) with each other
* discussion on common goals
* some minor acknowledge on this fight, something like "hmm, yes that wasn't productive"
And thing that I real would like to see
* VCS URI to Salsa, the logical succesor of https://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/gjots2.git
Groeten
Geert Stappers
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