Bug#861912: closed by Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> (Re: Bug#861912: general: turning off bluetooth in upper toolbar in Gnome 3 doesn't keep it off (Wheezy))

["Mark G.B." <mark.balantzyan@gmail.com>]

Hi Ben,

Thanks for the reply. Is there anything I can do to restore support for PowerPC in Stretch? From the outset, it seemed PowerPC would be included in the supported architectures, as I could see it show up in some offerings for early packages. Isn't a bit late to remove the support for the PowerPC? I thought as of earlier this year Stretch was on a "full freeze"? I don't think it would be fair to go on a retroactive change to remove the powerpc arch. I'd been gunning on even helping out in dev for the new stable (Stretch) in 2018. I've had github experience in my Comp Sci studies so sharing my code'd be no prob.

PowerPC has been an historical arch in Debian since the start with donations even of PPC testing units at the start of the project and there's a whole neato page stating how proud you guys are of the port. Don't turn back now! I understand there are derivatives that are more modern such as ARM and ppcel but I believe one of the goals of Linux (having seen it since my early days in school) is to bring software to everyone, regardless of the computing machinery they happen to possess.

Wheezy works so well! It's amazing, if I may say, that 7.11. I forsee the same quality being brought to final revisions of Jessie and Stretch. Expanding features shouldn't be prioritized as high as maintaining quality, in my opinion. The growing number of features in DE's, etc. may be what is throwing off the devs. That being said, handy users of PowerPC on Apple PowerMac, though, would be happy to do bug testing (myself included).

Couldn't you guys put on some initiative to encourage bug testing and dev in support of the powerpc arch as a "special case" for users loyal to the arch who want to keep it going?

P.S. Where else may I find Linux distros for PPC that have current implementation? Would Linux from Scratch work, since it is compiled from source??

Thanks guys :),

markg00gler

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#861912: general: turning off bluetooth in upper toolbar in Gnome 3 doesn't keep it off (Wheezy)

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From: Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>
To: 861912-done@bugs.debian.org
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Date: Fri, 05 May 2017 22:39:34 +0100
Subject: Re: Bug#861912: general: turning off bluetooth in upper toolbar in Gnome 3 doesn't keep it off (Wheezy)
On Fri, 2017-05-05 at 11:33 -0700, Mark wrote:
> Package: general
> Severity: important
>
> Dear Maintainer,
>
> I tried turning off bluetooth via the icon in the upper toolbar in Gnome 3 in
> Wheezy oldstable, which I run WITH hardware acceleration on PowerMac G5 Quad, a
> feature I obtained easily without troubleshooting kernel recompiles in Stable.
> It's nouveau on a Quadro FX 4500. :)

I'm afraid Linux on PowerMacs is pretty much dead now.  There is
certainly no-one on the Debian kernel team looking after the powerpc
architecture or PowerMacs.

The only supported Debian release for powerpc is now jessie (wheezy LTS
only covers x86 and ARM; stretch doesn't include powerpc).

> Besides that "nudge" or "hint" on improving nouveau on stables and testings,
> I'd like to notify that turning off the bluetooth via the feature up top only
> disables for the running session. Upon rebooting, it's back on.
>
> This is a request to implement that turning off the bluetooth is remembered for
> the respective user.

This is presumably not an architecture-specific problem, and I seem to
remember seeing it myself at one time.  But it is unlikely to be fixed
in wheezy now.  If the problem still exists in jessie, then please
report the bug against 'src:gnome-bluetooth' (I think that's the right
package) rather than 'general'.

Ben.

--
Ben Hutchings
The program is absolutely right; therefore, the computer must be wrong.


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From: Mark <mark.balantzyan@gmail.com>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
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Date: Fri, 05 May 2017 11:33:20 -0700
Subject: general: turning off bluetooth in upper toolbar in Gnome 3 doesn't keep it off (Wheezy)
Package: general
Severity: important

Dear Maintainer,

I tried turning off bluetooth via the icon in the upper toolbar in Gnome 3 in
Wheezy oldstable, which I run WITH hardware acceleration on PowerMac G5 Quad, a
feature I obtained easily without troubleshooting kernel recompiles in Stable.
It's nouveau on a Quadro FX 4500. :)

Besides that "nudge" or "hint" on improving nouveau on stables and testings,
I'd like to notify that turning off the bluetooth via the feature up top only
disables for the running session. Upon rebooting, it's back on.

This is a request to implement that turning off the bluetooth is remembered for
the respective user.

Thank you



-- System Information:
Debian Release: 7.11
  APT prefers oldstable
  APT policy: (500, 'oldstable')
Architecture: powerpc (ppc64)

Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-4-powerpc64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_CA.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_CA.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash