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Re: Bug#824884: netbase: should not recommend ifupdown



On Tue, May 24, 2016, at 10:01, Simon McVittie wrote:
> On Tue, 24 May 2016 at 09:08:11 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > Whatever we do, we absolutely must bring up a fully configured loopback
> > interface by default.
> 
> Happily, our default init system already does that.

We need to ensure any non-default ones also do that before we drop
ifupdown from "recommends", because ifupdown + default
/etc/network/interfaces is the fallback that ensures the loopback will
be up.

Hopefully we already do that, but it doesn't look like it from a fast
look at a jessie workstation.

> systemd's authors see the lo device as being less like networking and
> more like part of the "API" of a Linux machine, so pid 1 sets it up

Which actually makes a lot of sense, as it is in fact a critical
networking component on any modern Unix userland.   Drop/bring down the
loopback, and the world breaks in surprising ways, be it in Linux, the
BSDs, or Solaris.

> using. That seems like a reasonable approach to me.

It is reasonable, yes.

-- 
  "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org>


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