Hey, > > Before requesting for sponsorship, and packaging officially the other > > components of mailman3, I'd like some "testers" for the core package I > > built, in order to be sure that it works, and that I will not introduce some > > stupid caveats on the packaging of the other components. > > > > .deb can be found here: http://peb.pimeys.fr/mailman/mailman3-core/ > > git repo can be found there: https://gitlab.pimeys.fr/PEB/mailman3-core > > and there: https://github.com/P-EB/mailman3-core > > > > Any volunteer welcome! Please, I need your help, I cannot review my work > > alone! :) > > I just tried to have a look in a stretch docker image. > > - There are three .deb files on your webserver > > mailman3-core_3.0.0-1_all.deb > mailman3-core_3.0.0-3_all.deb > mailman3-core_3.0.0-3_amd64.deb > > It is not immediately obvious which one to test, since -1 has actually > a newer timestamp. > > - Mailman Core 3.0.1 and 3.0.2 have been released in the meantime Fixes e.g https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues/125 which could be very frustrating to users as seen in https://groups.io/g/debops/message/29 > - it does not work on stretch/sid because it is not compatible with > Python 3.5, see https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues/181 Same problem on Ubuntu Xenial, that I tried first for testing. The package should have a more strict python dependency. > - it does not install on Jessie (even with jessie-backports because of > missing dependencies) (just a note because of not working on stretch > either) I tries Ubuntu Wily afterwards. But I good an error due to outdated falcon. Please express the version constraint also in Dpkg to get an error on installation time, not on start time. Backporting a newer falcon version fixed the issue. > - The systemd unit won't work because the parameter for the > configuration file is '-C', not '-c' > > - installing python3.4 and changing the shebang in /usr/bin/mailman > leads to the following error > > root@4ca9477a166c:~# /usr/bin/mailman -C /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg start > Starting Mailman's master runner > /usr/bin/python3.4: can't open file '/var/lib/mailman/bin/master': > [Errno 2] No such file or directory > > The files are installed in /var/lib/mailman3/bin, but bin_dir in > /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg points to /var/lib/mailman/bin ... both > directories are wrong from my POV, it should probably be > /usr/lib/mailman3 or something like that > > - Fixing this up leads to > > root@4ca9477a166c:~# /usr/bin/mailman -C /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg start > Starting Mailman's master runner > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/var/lib/mailman3/bin/master", line 9, in <module> > load_entry_point('mailman==3.0.0', 'console_scripts', 'master')() > File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/bin/master.py", line 536, > in main > with open(config.PID_FILE, 'w') as fp: > FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: > '/run/mailman3/master.pid' > > because the directory does not exist. Since you are shipping a systemd > unit only you should probably ship a .tmpfile as well. > > I now have a running daemon. I haven't done anything with Mailman3 so > far, so I need to read up on that first. I did some further testing - Mailman does not use /etc/mailman3/mailman.cfg as default config. So to each mailman call a extra parameter or the environment variable MAILMAN_CONFIG_FILE as to be added. If you forget this, mailman creates a new instance one the fly under ./var (very annoying). I would be nice to patch mailman to use the example configuration file by default. - The default configuration uses postfix, needing postmap to run mailman aliases (which is called automatically on mailman create). So the package should recommend/suggests postfix. I was now able to create a mailing list, subscribe with multiple users, send a test message and get the answers by the other user. So base feature set working :-) Some other remarks to the package: - The service should not be run as root. The package should create a own user and the systemd service unit should to start mailman as that user. - It would be good to add the next step to README.Debian (reconfigure postfix etc. and uses the mailman executable to create lists ...). And add a note that sqlite is used by default, that for some people might not be appropriate for production installations. - I prefer removing the tests files or moving them into a own binary packages, as they are not needed on most installations. - The documentation's raw rst files are currently installed; please run sphinx during the build and ship the compiled files instead. Thx for your work - I got a working mailman3 instance, Malte Swart.
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