On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 08:24:51AM +1000, Paul Wise wrote: > I think removing anonymous debtags will eliminate casual debtagging > from non-technical users. If we can still allow anonymous submissions > after the SSO integration then I would be willing to moderate > anonymous submissions once a week as I do for screenshots. Perhaps the > site could allow any DD moderate any package and any DM to moderate > their packages? I tried anonymous submissions and relying on myself or others do manual review, and all that happened so far is that both others and me have very quickly lost interest, and after reviewers lost interest, debtags stalled. I consider that way tried, and failed. I see value in authenticated users contributing tags directly to the reviewed set, and in changing https://debtags.debian.org/edit/debtags so that the changes that are saved take effect immediately without review. I think that it simplifies both the site codebase (and as a consequence the maintenance worload on it) and the data workflow, and I would consider it a great boon if the workflow became simple enough that others besides me can actually understand it. I consider moving on to non-anonymous tagging only a definite move towards something better than we have now, which is why I do not hesitate to go that way. I am skeptical about the value of having such a low enough barrier of entry to tag submissions that even creating an alioth account would be too much, because I don't think such casual visitors would be motivated to do much more than just click through the AI-suggested tags. I rather make it easy for the package maintainers and other regular debian contributors to regularly go and take good care of things. There can be some value in having anonymous casual visitors submit tags without creating an alioth account first, but I do not see that value as high enough for /me/ to spend the energy to design, code, and maintain an interface, a backend and a workflow for it. I have for years went and implemented all sort of features requests for blue sky ideas of mine and of others, and then ended up with a pile of code and services that I do not have the energy to maintain. I'm done with that, and I'll now just put work into something that I clearly see as a sustainable way forward for me. You are welcome to join as a site comaintainer and design an interface for anonymous tagging and write code for it and commit to maintaining it through future evolutions of the site codebase. Enrico -- GPG key: 4096R/E7AD5568 2009-05-08 Enrico Zini <enrico@enricozini.org>
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