On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 06:06:17PM +0100, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: > In order to solve #769551 I need to Pre-Depends: init-system-helpers > Indeed preinst script need it: > /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst: 27: /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst: > deb-systemd-helper: not found > Thus I am asking to add a pre-depends to init-system-helpers I am very concerned about the promulgation of init-system-helpers in general. This helper package has started pulling bloated dependencies into our base system (bug #757891), and is not documented in policy at all, nor have I seen any public discussion in the appropriate places (namely, debian-devel) about why these new interfaces were needed instead of fitting this into the existing dh_installinit/invoke-rc.d interface. I think a wider discussion is needed, both to make sure the design of such a core component has gotten appropriate review, and to inform the wider project about why it's necessary. Can someone of the systemd maintainers please explain why this is being done as a separate helper instead of integrating with the tools that are already defined in policy and already part of the base system (e.g., invoke-rc.d)? Anthony Towns has just posted a draft init policy to debian-policy: https://github.com/ajtowns/debian-init-policy While this policy mentions deb-systemd-helper, there's no explanation of when or why it should be used. Thanks, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer http://www.debian.org/ slangasek@ubuntu.com vorlon@debian.org
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