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Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

On Thu, 2014-08-21 at 17:56 +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> Hello,
> Here my points about using Gnome 3.12:
> Gnome 3.12 depends on 3D video drivers or a emulation of that. In Gnome
> 3.4 (Wheezy) there was a "fallback mode", but that's gone. There is now
> something called "GNOME Classic" but that still needs 3D drivers. It's
> only more "classic" with menu's etc.
> There is something called LLVMpipe, it's a software fallback when there
> is no 3D video driver. I don't know how well it works. Maybe here is
> somebody with more information?  Is it automatically used in Debian,
> when the videocard is not supported? How does it work on older machines?

It is used automatically.

> For some hardware there are no 3D drivers. E.g. in server-boards there
> are most of the time very poor GPU's. I don't use a graphical
> environment on servers myself most of the time, but I think many people
> do. Not sure LLVMpipe is really useable.

It is.

> Another point is desktop sharing. I use X2go and it does not work with
> Gnome in 3D mode. Is here somebody who can tell me if VNC or RDP or
> something else works? I must say that I don't like VNC, because it's
> very slow. X2go is really fast.
> Another point are virtual machines. Does Gnome 3.12 work fine inside
> many virtual machines?

It works for me in a KVM/QEMU VM with cirrus emulation.  That has no 3D
acceleration, and I am viewing the display with VNC.  As I understand
it, the composition and animation effects are simplified when LLVMpipe
is being used, so it is reasonably responsive.


Ben Hutchings
If at first you don't succeed, you're doing about average.

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