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Re: Sources licensed under PHP License and not being PHP are not distributable

On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 02:36:18PM +0300, Faidon Liambotis wrote:
> On 06/26/14 14:00, Ondřej Surý wrote:
> >I should have done this earlier before cloning the bugs, so here's
> >some more background on the bugs filled.

> >I did have a quite long and extensive chat with FTP Masters
> >and our conclusion was that PHP License (any version) is
> >suitable only for software that comes directly from "PHP Group",
> >that basically means only PHP (src:php5) itself.

> Could you elaborate on the reasoning of that? Neither your email to -devel
> nor the one to -legal[1] explains why you think so and whatever it is, I
> think it's far from obvious. I think an outcome that results in a mass (RC)
> bug filing needs to be better documented than that -- and btw, you're
> supposed to mail debian-devel *before* you do so, not after; cf. developer's
> reference 7.1.1.

> Besides the importance of the bug filing itself and removing half of PHP
> from Debian (including packages such as php-memcached!), I have another
> point to make: as you're well aware, we're in the progress of packaging
> Facebook's HHVM, which is a new runtime engine for PHP that is gaining some
> popularity[2].

Furthermore, there are bugs in the actual MBF that's been filed here.  Bug
#752639 was filed against php-imlib, which gives the PHP license as one of
*two* options under which the work can be distributed - LGPL is the other,
and is in practice the one that's in effect for Debian.

So I think we need a review here of the MBF methodology, because the
problems with the PHP License were already identified and worked through in
the archive a decade ago - so a lot of these bugs are probably false

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