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Re: let's split the systemd binary package



On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 05:58:16PM +0000, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> > > > E.g. XFCE either wants ConsoleKit, or logind. If you look at ConsoleKit,
> > > > you'll notice it is NOT maintained.  
> > > 
> > > XFCE *needs* neither and in fact the vast vast majority of users do
> > > not either.  
> > 
> > I check the spec files for Fedora, Mageia, openSUSE. They all seem to
> > require logind. For Arch, seems as well, but not sure (difficult to
> > verify). For Debian it is a recommends.
> > 
> 
> So all the systemd using Distro's!
> 
> How about Gentoo, Slackware, LFS and many many others?
> 
> > Needs neither seems to be true based on the recommends, but "vast
> > majority" seems incorrect. I do wonder what breaks though :P
> 
> By vast majority I was meaning user requirements and not distro
> packagers expectations, user requirements is actually the metric which
> should count the most and most users do not need session tracking, it
> can actually get in the way (one user using many logins, shutdown, usb
> access etc.).

You said vast vast majority, you do the work! At the moment it seems
you're just changing goalpost as you go along. I don't play such games.
I showed I did research on what I understood. If you are so sure about
the needs of the "vast vast majority", it is up to *you* to show proof.
I'm not interested though.

-- 
Regards,
Olav


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