Le 31/05/2013 13:10, Marc Haber a écrit : > On Fri, 31 May 2013 08:41:56 +0200, Jean-Christophe Dubacq > <jcdubacq1@free.fr> wrote: >> Le 30/05/2013 18:29, Marc Haber a écrit : >>> On Thu, 30 May 2013 13:56:02 +0200, Olav Vitters <olav@vitters.nl> >>> wrote: >>>> Seems the solutions are very focussed on the assumption that things >>>> cannot be changed. E.g. programs currently send email, so email it has >>>> to be forever. >>> >>> It is not a good idea to drop the way that > 90 % of programs use to >>> deliver messages. I really hate the idea of having a thing as fragile >>> as dbus on a server just to collect status messages. >> >> 73.6% of all statistics are made up. > > You have a point here. I shold have written the vast majority. > >> The way most programs deliver messages is actually syslog. > > Which is an epic nightmare to parse automatically if one needs to put > messages in relation to each other and is only readable if all > messages are shorter than, say, 160 characters. Even firewall log > messages are way longer than that already. > And yet, I remain convinced that I do redirect many root accounts to my own account, and I have yet to see very important messages coming that way. When I stop receiving useless messages from one machine, *that* means something, namely, that the machine is broken. But anyone seriously keeping an eye on server will install some kind of munin/nagios, and on desktops, disk tools will notify the user when the computer is used. All the rest belongs to syslog. I seem to recall that some init system has a specific additional format to store logs and make them easily searchable, by the way. Sincerly, -- Jean-Christophe Dubacq
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