Le 5 août 2013 15:42, "Paul Tagliamonte" <firstname.lastname@example.org> a écrit :
> On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 02:13:15PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > We need to separate these two issues.
> IMVHO, this is the same as how we should treat images (I mean, for any
> data format, not just this one case of a pickled object) - if the image
> was a photo, clearly the .jpg or .png or whatever we get is the best way
> to communicate this data, but if the image was generated off an .svg,
> it should be distributed with it (and even rebuilt at build-time).
Could we made an exception for specially crafted image in order to exercice buffer oveeflow ? (I think particularly art libpng ImageMagick)
> > One is the file format question. It doesn't seem to me that there is
> > anything wrong with a binary format as the preferred form for
> > modification, in principle. For a file which is typically edited
> > using R, including by upstream when they what to edit it, then there
> > is no problem.
> Sure. If this data wasn't collected off some scientific
> instrument or lovingly hand-made, I strongly believe that we should
> rebuild such objects at build time, and use those in the binary
> > The other is the assertion that this particular case involves a
> > generated data table. If this is the case then the source package
> > needs to contain the source code which generates the table - and,
> > really, it should regenerate the table during the build. (The source
> > might be in the form of another R binary object.)
> I completely agree.
> > (Of course there is a third issue: it is probably not the best
> > engineering decision to use a binary save format rather than text
> > source code. But that's not something the Debian maintainer
> > necessarily gets to choose and it's not a reason for an ftpmaster
> > reject.)
> > > > The question asked by Paul is a recurrent question that comes each
> > > > time the FTP trainees rotate (basically once per release cycle,
> > > > because during the Freeze the FTP trainees find other exciting
> > > > tasks to do, and then do not seem to have much time to process NEW
> > > > anymore).
> > >
> > > This must mean many people who care deeply about this topic see this as an
> > > issue.
> > I don't think this is a helpful response to someone who is raising
> > what they see as a systematic problem.
> I'm sorry, Charles. Ian's right. That was a poor tone.
> > Paul, would it be possible to update the ftpmaster assistant reference
> > materials to discuss R's binary files ?
> I would be happy to document what is and isn't OK with these files. I'll
> have to seek a bit of consensus from the rest of the ftp-team, but I
> think treating them as if they were any other data format should be
> > Ian.
> Thanks, Ian,
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