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Re: Bug#706160: general: it should be easier for ordinary developers to work with Debian packages



Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> writes:
...
> Put otherwise, going to one distribution and saying "you guys are doing
> it all wrong, look at how $OTHER distribution is doing it, you should do
> it their way!!1!" isn't very convincing.

It's particularly unconvincing if one has witnessed the Gentoo BoF at
this year's FOSDEM[1], in which they discussed the deep joy of having
users who patch packages into a state of uselessness, and then report
bugs against the result without mentioning that they broke the package
themselves.

We have a packaging system that rewards people that read up on the tools
we provide for doing the simple tasks one might expect to be able to do
with it.  Conversely, it punishes those that don't.

If those that expect to be able to do this sort of thing without
consulting any documentation are encouraged to go elsewhere by this
fact, then I'd say that's a feature, not a bug.

Cheers, Phil.

[1] I filmed that session:

  http://mirror.be.gbxs.net/video.fosdem.org//2013/crossdistro/Gentoo_BoF.webm

The relevant bit starts at 11:10, with a very salient quote almost
immediately from Petteri Räty (betelgeuse):

  "I think user patching should be a _bit_ hard ... it's a support
  nightmare. Unless well thought out, all the bugs coming in to
  gentoo.org, debugging becomes ... complicated"

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