On 09/08/12 22:05, Thomas Goirand wrote: > What you are proposing here is a hack based on dangerous assumptions. Why you say this is a dangerous assumption? I am not proposing adding this to already installed machines via upgrades, but to add this feature to d-i, so it automatically adds sbin dirs to the path of the first user on new installs. I believe that many newbie users could be confused when they type on the console "random-sbin-command" and get "command not found" or they aren't able to use tab completion to discover that this commands are available on their system. > Why can't you customize your own computer $PATH for your user, if > you feel this way? > Already did long time ago. Just trying to improve the defaults :) > Also, I quite not understand why ifconfig is so important in the eyes > of many participant to this thread, when there's an alternative, when > other tools without other implementation would deserve much more > attention. Others have already listed few tools, but here's my own > list too: > - tc (to be used with /sbin/tc qdisc show for example) > - All partitioning / formatting utilities (mkfs, resize2fs, etc.) > > But that's about it. Why not trying to fix those instead? These are two different things. Of course I agree with fixing the sbin files that should be in bin. But at the same time I think that adding sbin to the path of the first user on d-i is a good idea. I bet that the first user of the 90% of the systems (uid 1000) is also the admin of that machine. Either because is a single-user machine (laptop/pc) or because he is the one which installed the server and therefore is the sysadmin. Furthermore I believe that also this first user is added to sudoers by d-i when installing a new Debian system """ As of DebianSqueeze, if you ask for the Desktop task during the installation, that pulls in sudo with a default configuration that automatically grants sudo-ing rights to any member of the sudo group. Depending on what user accounts you set up during the install, it's still possible that you may not have been added to that group - you can check by running groups. """ http://wiki.debian.org/sudo So, how can be the we add the first user of the system to sudoers and we don't add sbin to his default paths?
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