On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 14:10 +0100, Philip Ashmore wrote: > On 30/05/12 22:42, Karl Goetz wrote: > > On Wed, 30 May 2012 13:20:24 +0100 > > Philip Ashmore <contact@philipashmore.com> wrote: > > > >> On 30/05/12 12:29, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > >>> On 05/26/2012 09:09 PM, Philip Ashmore wrote: > >>>> On 05/26/2012 06:53 AM, Jonathan Callen wrote: > >>>>> On 05/25/2012 10:03 PM, Philip Ashmore wrote: > >>>>>> Hi there. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> First, here's what I'm talking about - > >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permalink > >>>>>> Unfortunately Wikipedia doesn't offer permalinks itself, so > >>>>>> hopefully the above link won't "rot". > >>>>> > >>>>> And here's the permalink to the above article, as it was when the > >>>>> preceding post was made: > >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Permalink&oldid=483438630 > >>>>> Or, if you prefer links that don't indicate where they're really > >>>>> going: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=483438630 > >>>> > >>>> I'm happy and sad with this. > >>>> Happy that Wikipedia provides permalink support. > >>>> Sad that it didn't document it in its article about permalinks. > >>>> > >>>> Is there documentation on this feature somewhere? > >>>> > >>>> Permalinks, along with the fact that MediaWiki is free GPLv2, > >>>> makes a compelling argument for moving Debian documentation to > >>>> MediaWiki. > >>> > >>> Which documentation are you talking about? Most official > >>> documentation should have a fixed URL. > >>> > >>> If you are talking about the wiki: retrieving a fixed version from > >>> moinmoin is the same as in mediawiki. > >>> > >>> So I can't see a useful argument here, only FUD trying to talk > >>> people into using Mediawiki. > >>> > >> Hi there and thanks for your feedback. > >> > >> I'm talking about the fact that Debian has mail archives that may > >> include links to documentation that has changed since the mail was > >> written, possibly rendering the mail thread misleading or nonsensical. > >> > >> Any documentation system that can provide a means to refer to a > >> specific version (permalinks) would be better than what's there now. > > > > Could you give examples of things lacking permalinks? > > thanks, > > kk > > > http://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections > > It doesn't mention which version(s) of Debian it applys to. > It doesn't provide links to versions that apply to previous or testing > versions > of Debian. It's a wiki, so how would we ensure that? > I also couldn't find a permalink on the page. > > Oh and I couldn't get it to bridge from my wifi to the ethernet port. Not particularly surprising; that recipe is a nasty hack. Routing makes more sense. > Does anyone else out there wish there was an app that (graphically) > simulated > packet flow/filtering based on test configurations? > This page is definitely not noob-friendly, or is that a feature? It's a wiki, so how would we ensure that? Ben. -- Ben Hutchings The obvious mathematical breakthrough [to break modern encryption] would be development of an easy way to factor large prime numbers. - Bill Gates
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