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Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages



On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 05:09:07AM +0000, Bart Martens wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 01:41:25PM +0200, Gergely Nagy wrote:
> > Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> writes:
> > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 01:58:16PM +0200, Gergely Nagy wrote:
> > >> Someone wrote:
> > >> > I disagree on this point.  If you can't get anyone to ack that you should go
> > >> > ahead with the orphaning, then the system is not working as designed and
> > >> > consensus has not been achieved.  It's then incumbent on the person looking
> > >> > to orphan the package to rattle the cage and get developers to pay
> > >> > attention.
> > >
> > >> On the other hand, it is already hard to find people willing to review
> > >> other peoples work. Mandating acks means trusting that there will be
> > >> enough manpower to review something potentially unknown. I can't see
> > >> that happening reliably. It also makes the process a whole lot more
> > >> complicated than it needs to be,

> > > No, it makes the process based on *consensus*, which is a minimum
> > > requirement.

> > It also means that the salvager has to do more work.

> I expect the cc to debian-qa to draw sufficient DD's attention.  And the
> ACKs are about agreeing on marking a package as orphaned.  That's the easy
> part.

> The salvaging part goes via the existing ITA procedure.  That's the hard
> part.

Exactly.  Anyone who can't be bothered to find N other DDs to agree with him
that a package should be orphaned (for some value of N <= 3 - as far as I'm
concerned, 1 or 2 acks w/ 0 nacks is sufficient) shouldn't be considering
themselves a candidate for maintaining the package anyway.

-- 
Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
Ubuntu Developer                                    http://www.debian.org/
slangasek@ubuntu.com                                     vorlon@debian.org

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