On 12-09-10 at 10:55am, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le lundi 10 septembre 2012 à 10:40 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard a écrit : > > On my almost-only-core squeeze development chroot: > > > > root@auryn:/# aptitude install --with-recommends evince-gtk > > Need to get 46.8 MB of archives. After unpacking 123 MB will be used. > > root@auryn:/# aptitude install --with-recommends evince > > Need to get 76.8 MB of archives. After unpacking 211 MB will be used. > > > On my almost-only-core sid development chroot: > > > > root@auryn:/# aptitude install --with-recommends evince-gtk > > Need to get 61.8 MB of archives. After unpacking 172 MB will be used. > > root@auryn:/# aptitude install --with-recommends evince > > Need to get 91.9 MB of archives. After unpacking 283 MB will be used. > > Between evince and evince-gtk, there are 3 differences in squeeze: > - GConf → gone away in sid > - GNOME keyring → it is a mere wrapper on a DBus interface > - Nautilus → the dependency is only for the nautilus plugin itself > > We could remove evince-gtk and split the Nautilus plugin in a different > package (evince-nautilus), and you would almost not notice any > difference. Yes, or maybe that one dependency could be relaxed to a suggest (actual GNOME users would have it pulled in by other packages anyway), or I can simply suppress that one remaining annoying (to me) recommendation left. I am happy that Evince no longer is bloated. But this thread really is about naming of a tool, and my argument stand that it seems useful also outside a GNOME context. You also do not call it evince vs. evince-gnome :-) In my opinion it might make sense to use -gnome for a flavor of a package that has some enhancements specifically for use with GNOME, and -gtk when using the GTK+ widgets (i.e. optimal for use with GNOME and XFCE, but less so with KDE (since it uses Qt). Yes, I am fully aware that Qt apps can look nice together with GTK+ apps, but some are interested not only in the looks but also resource use, and loading *both* GTK+ and Qt consumes more resources. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private
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