Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism that manages the services, startup and shutdown of a host
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- Subject: Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism that manages the services, startup and shutdown of a host
- From: Josselin Mouette <email@example.com>
- Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2012 11:45:23 +0200
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Le vendredi 31 août 2012 à 19:34 +0300, Serge a écrit :
> Yeah, one init system, one kernel, one libc, one distribution, one
> window manager, one OS. Looks like a windows-way. :)
There’s a huge difference between being able to switch between window
managers and to switch between init/kernel/libc. The former gives users
a different experience, which might answer to specific needs and make
the distribution better (note the “might” – I’m pretty sure it does not
apply to all of the 70+ WMs we ship). Being able to choose between
kernels or init systems doesn’t bring anything per se.
> "640kb ought to be enough for anybody." :)
“Shell init scripts ought to be enough for anybody, so let’s fuck those
modern init systems that use a decent format.”
> Linux is still not about choice? Then let's make it be about choice!
What if, for once, we made it about better computing?
> > As for Debian not being universal, this is certainly not my saying.
> > But toy ports and toy init systems are part of what makes Debian less
> > universal: being the universal OS doesn’t mean accepting every piece
> > of shit, it means being able to answer every user need.
> So, if user needs to see something in debian repository then being
> universal means having it in repository. :)
And what kind of users need a different init system?
> > One good init system can answer all our needs, while four bad ones will
> > certainly not.
> What if that good init system is openrc?
You have to be kidding.
.''`. Josselin Mouette
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