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Re: choice in core infrastructure decisions (Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism)



On 11/08/12 07:12, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 08/11/2012 05:53 AM, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:
>> Declaring "one area -- one chosen tool" is declaring the monopoly in the
>> area. As with other monopolies, this often leads to "vendor" lock-in,
>> stagnation, stopping developing the standards. Have seen examples of all
>> that occasionally.
>>   
> Exactly! And in this particular case, the "vendor" is RedHat, and
> the programs are systemd and udev. If we can have an alternative,
> using OpenRC and mdev, then I really welcome it! Choosing systemd
> just because it *seem* to look better *now*, knowing that we have
> a quite hostile upstream, *and* dismissing any other alternative,
> is a very dangerous bet which I don't think Debian should do. That
> is, I believe, the most important point of all this thread.
> 
> Let's welcome OpenRC and see how it goes... This doesn't mean that
> we are choosing *now* what will be the *default* init system. Just
> that we are open to a new alternative.
> 

FYI, I just saw this:

"Yes, udev on non-systemd systems is in our eyes a dead end, in case you
haven't noticed it yet. I am looking forward to the day when we can drop
that support entirely" - Lennart Poettering (lists.freedesktop.org)


http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2012-August/006066.html

http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/y3ao1/yes_udev_on_nonsystemd_systems_is_in_our_eyes_a/

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