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Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism that manages the services, startup and shutdown of a host

On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 02:51:49PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 10:40:44PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 03:54:05PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > > Please do not bother.
> > > openrc was recently discussed on debian-devel@ and there was a large 
> > > consensus that it is not a credible alternative to upstart and systemd.
> > openrc is not acceptable from the very start, as it lacks a key part:
> > a hostile upstream.  That seems to be the main requirement for Debian.
> Ah, that must be why the community hasn't rallied around upstart yet...  we
> aren't being hostile enough!  Thanks for helping me understand, I'll do what
> I can to make sure Canonical is being appropriately hostile wrt upstart from
> now on. ;)

Wasn't the idea of porting to non-Linux rejected by upstart's upstream? 
With nowhere as much hostility as systemd's, though -- if I recall
correctly, it was something like "do all the work yourself, we won't help
you even with merging patches", as opposed to systemd "no because no, over
my dead body".

With people like you around, this is something that's solvable.

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from the very start they were legalized bribes to give the king some income
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