On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Steve Langasek <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> Hi Pau,
> On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 04:24:21PM +0200, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote:
>> Regarding the often-mentioned "many users run 'node script' from the
>> command-line"... so what? If we can get enough distributions (Debian,
>> Suse, Fedora, MacPorts and brew would likely be enough) to rename the
>> node.js binary, upstream will be forced to change from /usr/bin/node
>> to /usr/bin/nodejs
> Compare this with ruby, where the outcome of Debian diverging from upstream
> was that the large and vocal upstream community shouted from the rooftops
> that our packages were broken and should never be used, until eventually
> (AIUI) Debian backed down.
> Engaging in brinksmanship with the upstream on such matters is not always
> going to give a favorable outcome, even if we have other distribution
> maintainers on our side; and in the meantime it's always unpleasant for the
> users caught in the middle.
Agreed. That's why my proposal was that *all* of those (Debian,
Fedora, Suse, MacPorts and brew) did the rename, not just us (Debian).
It's certainly not nice to push upstream to do something they don't
want to do, but when upstream is not doing their due diligence...
Pau Garcia i Quiles
(Due to my workload, I may need 10 days to answer)