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Re: A few observations about systemd

Is it possible to implement the linux-only feathers that systemd needs?

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 6:20 PM, David Weinehall <tao@debian.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 09:00:07PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
> [snip]
>> The main question is: For who's interest should Debian exist, the
>> upstream authors, the Debian maintainers or the users? My vote is on the
>> latter :)
> I think few argue against Debian being for the users.  But the question
> is, what does our users really want?  I honestly never heard the huge
> outcry from users demanding us to port Debian to the FreeBSD kernel.
> I'm fairly certain this started out as a project that some of our
> developers thought would be interesting.
> Likewise I've never noticed any demand for a Hurd port (and in fact I
> suspect that even when the Hurd port finally reaches a reasonable state
> of completion the userbase will be limited to people running it for the
> novelty factor rather than because it actually provides any real
> benefit).
> That said I haven't heard any outcry from users for systemd or upstart
> either.
> Point being is that sometimes we as developers need to try to make a
> judgment on what would serve our users the most.  What we do know is
> that we have a huge userbase of Linux users.
> I think most people also realise that sysvinit is beginning to really
> show signs of aging (or rather, that the world around it has developed
> to a point where it no longer can keep up).  systemd and upstart both
> aim to solve a lot of these issues, and also at least in systemd's case,
> but I guess this also goes for upstart, to add additional value that
> hasn't even been an option with sysvinit (socket activation being one
> thing).
> Regards, David Weinehall
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