Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

[Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no>]

Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> writes:
> On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 23:07 +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote:
>> Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org> writes:
>> > Le jeudi 31 mars 2011 à 09:25 +0200, Vincent Danjean a écrit : 
>> >> Martin F. Krafft started to implement a replacement of ifupdown that
>> >> is better designed. But, due to lack of manpower I think, this project
>> >> did not finish. See this archives of netconf-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org
>> >> for more info.
>> >
>> > I wonder what amount of features we are missing for network-manager to
>> > do the job; instead of rewriting a daemon from scratch,
>> 
>> A daemon will never be able to replace ifupdown.  
>
> ifupdown will never work correctly.

Point taken.  Sorry about the noise.  

udevd has demonstrated that it is possible for a daemon to manage and
police all devices in a system, while still keeping the kernel as
"master of state".  You can actually restart udevd without having all
you disk devices removed and readded.  Of course.

So a daemon could do the job.  NM, however, can not.

I believe the problems with NM is best described by it's current list of
bugs, and in particular by the maintainer responses to bugs like
#415196.  NM can probably be used for really simple desktop setups, but
it is not suitable for any non-desktop setup or any non-trivial
networking. 



Bjørn