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Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

On Saturday 07 May 2011 09:41:34 Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Hi,


> On Fri, 06 May 2011, George Danchev wrote:
> > * writing a meaningful ITP helps to grab attention, especially if there
> > are multiple alternatives. Prove your point (ref: I'm upstream and I
> > want to maintain it, doesn't magically buy you a slot into the archive)
> There's nothing to buy... only people offering to maintain packages in
> Debian. But we should certainly not turn out upstream who are willing to
> maintain the package in Debian.
> In fact I want more upstream involved in Debian!

I didn't write exactly that. You simply twisted the meaning of what I wrote.
Please, re-read, the keyword is *magically*. 

> (Unless someone does a serious review and has enough credit to convince
> many people that the software is crap and would really be a big burden)

We will accumulate tons of PHP CMSes that way, which doesn't seem to scale. In 
case of multiple alternatives, I'd rather prefer inclusion if enough arguments 
exist that it is better than already included ones.

> > * writing lengthy rebuttals for well known facts from the past are quite
> > unlikely, people has more important things to do.
> We're not speaking of lengthy rebuttals. I agree with Tshepang that the
> answers were rather aggressive when you consider that you speak with
> someone who is starting in the Debian community.
> Something like this would have perfectly done the job:
> "We already have many PHP CMS in the archive, what does this one offer
> that the other don't? Also PHP software tends to have a bad security track
> record, is ocPortal any better in that regard?"

That would have been better. I agree.

> > * recognize the fact when someone says that chances are high you are
> > about to be wasting your own time packaging $something.
> Everybody is free to do what they want with their own time, so you should
> certainly not say anyone that they are wasting their time. If you believe
> they are, you can certainly hint at better alternatives and let people
> see by themselves if they wish to spend their time differently now that
> they know of a possible alternative.

Okay, I just gave a hint from my mind, let's see what happens.

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