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Re: Debian rolling: tentative summary

On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 06:44:11PM +0200, Martin Wuertele wrote:
> * Jan Hauke Rahm <jhr@debian.org> [2011-05-02 18:31]:
> > On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 06:27:02PM +0200, Martin Wuertele wrote:
> > > * Jan Hauke Rahm <jhr@debian.org> [2011-05-02 18:23]:
> > > 
> > > > Not that I don't understand your asking for reasons but... doesn't look
> > > > having a large user base look somehow appealing to you? I think many DDs
> > > > care for such since working on Debian brings more fun if someone's
> > > > actually using it.
> > > 
> > > Why do you believe that this will increase our user base? It might, in
> > > case less focus is put on stable, even reduce our user base (on the
> > > coporate and server environment).
> > 
> > Firstly, I'm not saying that. Secondly, that's one of the main arguments
> > to introduce said changes. The argument was (not that it wasn't written
> > out often enough) that derivatives provide something we don't: more
> > current software; some as rolling releases, some on scheduled releases
> > etc. The idea is, if we provide something similar, not the same of
> > course, users who care for such come to us. It's as simple as that.
> I've read that arguement over and over. However the resources are
> limited and I have not yet read an actual proposal or plan how to do
> that without reducing the resources for the stable releases.

And I among others think that it won't affect stable as much as you
fear. There is already a bunch of DDs who don't care about servers and
use testing and/or unstable on all their systems. The mere fact that
Debian says "we care for stable" doesn't make anyone work for it. Just
like the mere saying that "testing/rolling is now supported as a rolling
release" doesn't make anyone care for it. There is just one way out: try
it and see if it works, of people care -- for both stable and rolling.

Improvement always means some risks of failure. Some are willing to take
that risk. Some aren't. What we need to see is whether there are enough
to go for it.


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