Re: Bug#580814: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

[Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no>]

]] Scott James Remnant 

| I investigated using cgroups in Upstart a while back, and hit the exact
| same issue.  There are two obvious solutions:
| 
|  - allow a process to escape its cgroup (kernel patch); this is
|    completely insane, since cgroups are primarily used for security
|    containers, system policies, etc.  Being able to escape your
|    container would be a Bad Thing

Or just have per-user cgroups that a process is moved into when logging
in, see libpam-cgroup for something that does this.

In addition, killing all members in a cgroup when a service goes down is
optional, not mandatory, so the tty would be usable just fine.

[...]

| Also note that Kay's assertion that there's no way to know all the
| processes you need to kill is incorrect.  UNIX solved this decades ago
| with process groups.

I believe the problem is that processes can escape and change their
process group.

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Tollef Fog Heen
UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are