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Re: [RFC] removing xserver-xorg-video-nv from squeeze

On Mon, 2010-07-12 at 22:31 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
> But I can't get the nouveau driver
> to use my custom 100 Hz Interlaced mode, or even the VESA standard 87 Hz
> Interlaced mode.  It insists on running the monitor at 60 Hz
> non-interlaced.  And my eyes just won't take that for very long.
> At 100 Hz interlaced, I can look at the screen all day long with no eye
> strain.  But at 60 Hz non-interlaced, my eyes are tired after 30 minutes
> or so.  I assume that that is due to no support for UMS.

I assume you've filed a bug requesting support for custom modes, as
requested by the X maintainers?

> >> There is no bug number here because
> >> I'm sure that upstream would consider this a feature and not a bug.  In other
> >> words, they would consider operation of the driver with KMS off an enhancement
> >> request.
> > 
> > Indeed you would be wasting your time, upstream deliberately removed all
> > UMS support from the nouveau X driver some months ago.
> That really annoys me.  I was down on the nv driver because Nvidia decided
> not to add support for newer GPUs to it.  But at least it supports UMS for
> older cards like mine.  If you get rid of the nv driver, it looks like I will
> have to get another monitor or another video card, even though there is nothing
> wrong with either of them.
> The intel driver supports both KMS and UMS.

Not any more.

> I see no reason why the nouveau
> people should decide to RAM KMS down our throats, whether we want it or not.

Because UMS is a nasty hack that makes various features impossible, and
it is too much work to maintain both models.

> And with my present hardware, nv appears to be my only viable solution.


Ben Hutchings
Once a job is fouled up, anything done to improve it makes it worse.

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